sábado, 21 de febrero de 2009

THE FELLOW TRAVELER AND THE GANGSTER. MARK WEISBROT INTERVIEWED CHAVEZ IN 2003.

The palm tree Weisbrot did not see.
A Caracas taxi in times of the revolution.




In 2003 Dr. Mark Weisbrot was already working for Hugo Chavez. Below there are excerpts from a very long interview Weisbrot did with Chavez. The questions were clearly loaded to produce the desired answers. Some of the answers look heavily edited by Weisbrot himself. This shameless whitewash is clearly not the work of an independent, objective, journalist but the work of a hired gun. I have included some brief comments (in black) next to each question and answer. The interview was published originally in May 2003 in the site of the North American Congress on Latin America, NACLA, an organization of “castristas”, “sandinistas” and now “Chavistas” who seem to support anyone that attacks the U.S. government.
************
INTERVIEW.


Mark: First I would like to try to set the record straight. This is for a U.S. audience. I have spoken with almost all of the journalists who report for U.S. newspapers from Caracas, and they agreed that people in the United States have a distorted view of Venezuela -they think it some sort of dictatorship, and has a repressive government.
Can you respond to this, and explain why you believe that Venezuela is a democracy?
Hugo: Well we can try to measure democracy, just as you measure temperature with a thermometer, or pressure with a barometer. In light of everything that's happened here, is there a single journalist imprisoned here? In four years of government, can anyone point to an imprisoned or persecuted journalist? Has there been a single media outlet closed for even a second?
I believe that there are a lot of ways to conclude objectively that we are a democracy. We're not perfect, but we do have democracy.
I believe that our constitution is among the most advanced in the world in terms of its observance of human rights. It observes the principles of human rights in all the theoretical depth that implies [inaudible],
There's practically no social or human right that cannot be found in its pages.
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. The question posed by Weisbrot already says a lot about bias. He says that almost all reporters working in Venezuela agree that there is a distorted view of Venezuela in the U.S. (although they were the ones reporting to the U.S. public). He asks Chavez: tell us why Venezuela is a democracy. And Chavez replies: Oh yes. We are a democracy. There is no one in prison. No media outlets closed down, etc. Well, that was a lie. Even at that moment Chavez had already violated the civil rights of 23,000 workers of the state oil company, dismissed by him without due process and who are still waiting for their severance payments almost six years later. He would go on to close down and confiscate the assets of Radio Caracas TV, owned by a political dissident. Even today more than a dozen political prisoners remain behind bars, after being falsely accused of the April 2002 massacre that Chavez’s snipers produced (the snipers are free and some have even been decorated). He also said that the constitution was kind of perfect. Well, he has already tried to change it several times to suit his personal political project and has violated it many other times.
M: And you did in fact release many prisoners who were awaiting trial when you took office?
H: Of course. More than 10,000. I myself went to the prisons, and interviewed the prisoners..
A lot has changed in our prisons... We've set up computer labs with internet access in the prison, so that the prisoners can share their story with the rest of the world.
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. Weisbrot puts words into Chavez’s mouth: you released the prisoners that had been awaiting trial, didn’t you? And Chavez, the big liar, replies: Yes. 10,000 of them! And he adds: “I interviewed them”, suggesting that he had seen them all. First of all, there were not 10,000 prisoners awaiting trial. There have never been 10,000 prioners awaiting trial in Venezuela. Second, Chavez never interviewed them all. Third, the Venezuelan prisons under Chavez are, if anything, worse places than before. Hundreds of inmates die violently every year in Chavez’s prisons. In 2007 an expert on this issue said: ‘Humberto Prado, of the non-governmental Venezuelan Prison Observatory (OVP), told IPS. "Minimum standards of treatment for persons held in detention are not met, and even the most basic rights are violated." Venezuela, with a population of 27.5 million, has 20,200 people incarcerated in 30 jails, of whom only 7,440 have been convicted and sentenced and 12,660 (62.6 percent) are being held on remand. Between January and July 2007, "292 people died in prison, and 634 were injured, a 55 percent increase in fatalities compared to the equivalent period in 2006. In the whole of 2006 there were 412 deaths and 728 injuries," Prado said. In short, Venezuela’s prisons are among the most violent and dangerous in the world”. Chavez lies about his prison system, just as he lies about everything else.
M: Let's talk about the press for just a bit more. You have a problem with both the international and the Venezuelan press. The international press: the New York Times actually endorsed the coup in April of 2002. Probably the first time in more than 25 years that they supported a military coup against a democratic government. That was on the Saturday. And then on the Tuesday -this was their editorial board -they issued a retraction, but they never apologized. Have you talked to them since then? Or asked for an apology?
It seems to be part of a larger social defect in the US -that's a society that should really develop some kind of response to the intellectual battering by part of the media that seems to take place daily. I sincerely hope that some day the US public will develop some kind of mass critical consciousness, that they will remove the veil from their eyes and see the media powers for what they are. No part of the human community can live entirely on its own planet, with its own laws of motion and cut off from the rest of humanity. They must be critical, and make it their personal responsibility to humanity and morality to discover the truth.
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. In Chavez’s view the U.S. public is duped by the press systematically. He advises them to “discover the truth”. I think they have already discovered it! They now see that Chavez is just one more banana dictator with a lot of money in his pockets to buy followers.
M: Yes, Brazil has [media] laws like that too.
H. Yes. It's about time for a regulation of this type in Venezuela, passed through the legislative branch.
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. Here they talk about media laws. Chavez says that it’s about time they get one. Well, he did. It’s called the Gag Law. It is a jump back to the XIX century, since a journalist can go to prison for four years for “insulting” the president or his relatives. Who defines what an insult is? Chavez.
M: Can you talk a bit more about what your government has accomplished?
H: For the first time in Venezuelan history, a president has advanced massive child immunization campaigns against hepatitis B. We've brought down the infection rate by 15%. …..In the educational field, we've opened up nearly 3,000 Bolivarian schools, which represents about 10% of the total number of schools in the country, where children learn only after having breakfast first. Before these schools [existed], kids would arrive at school without having eaten breakfast. There's not much you can learn on an empty stomach! Now they eat first and then go to classes. They have mini libraries in each classroom. They no longer have to work out of tiny individual desks, now they work at larger tables with more legroom and where they can spread out, and have some ownership of their personal space. They can pour out their creativity, receive medical attention, they have computer labs with internet access.
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. In the case of the hepatitis B vaccination all countries in Latin America have it, with the exception of Dominica and Haiti. There is no need for a revolution to do that. In the issue of “bolivarian schools” with breakfast, etc, Chavez lies when he says that this is his creation. Schools like this existed long before he came into power. In Carabobo, where I worked fo the State government during the 1990’s they were called “Escuelas de Excelencia” and this was not the only state where they existed. In fact, they were a national project started by then Minister of Education, Antonio Luis Cárdenas, in his native state of Merida during the 1990’s and extended to other states. Chavez is a compulsive liar.
M: It was announced recently that the land reform would cover 100,000 acres, or about 40,000 hectares...
H: ... it's very beautiful, very clean earth. Your brand new landholder can take a few kernels of corn, dig and put the seeds in a little hole, and tend it with care. A few days after the rain comes, you'll see a leaf begin to poke out, and within a few months you have a stalk. You grab it yourself, tearing off the leaves, skinning it, deseeding it, cook it up and then you have cachapa [a corn meal delicacy].
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. Well. It is far from beautiful. Hundreds of private farms have been invaded by Chavez’s followers in Venezuela. Two million hectares of land have been invaded by Chavez’s protected squatters that know little or nothing about farming. As a result of this large scale invasion Venezuela now imports two thirds of its food requirements. The so-called land reform or land revolution has been a total disaster.
M: 1954, the US overthrew the elected President of Guatemala, Jacobo Arbenz. In '64, the US was apparently involved in the events leading to the military coup against President Goulart of Brazil. The following year the US marines invaded the Dominican Republic, another intervention against a democratic government. The Sandinistas were elected in '84, and the US spent the next six years destroying the country through warfare and sabotage, and even?
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. Let’s forget about the answer of Weisbrot’s dummy. In this question Weisbrot is revealed as the person actually generating both questions and answers. This is not a question. This is a statement that Chavez, the dummy, is asked to corroborate. Weisbrot, above, accuses the U.S. of destroying Nicaragua during the sandinista regime. Actually the sandinista regime was one of the most corrupt and inefficient in Nicaragua’s history. The Ortega brothers were a couple of thieves. I would not be surprised if Weisbrot argued that Daniel Ortega’s raping of his daughter in law for 14 years was due to his being hypnotized by the CIA.
M: Let's go back to the economy for a bit, and look at the region.
H: It's time for a new political and economic era… To hear the Argentine president Kirchner say the kinds of things he said yesterday, such as "Argentina will pay its [foreign] debt [only] if things are going well for Argentina." It's a tremendous political commitment,
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. This revelation by Chavez says it all about Kirchner’s, Correa’s and Chavez’s lack of responsibility. They will pay their debts “as long as things are going well”. If not, they will not pay their debts. It is as simple as that for these gangsters. In light of this revelation, whoever lends money to these gangsters does it at considerable risk.
M: And what role do you think that Venezuela has? One reason I ask this is that it often seems that there are times when the vast majority of people are ready for change, but one of the things that holds them back is when they think there is no hope of winning anything.
H: The Bolivarian process is at the forefront of this struggle…. I should confess to you that the exchange controls ARE a political measure. One must reflect on why I made that decision. I think that I even made the decision too late! Do you have any idea how much capital flight we've suffered since I came to power?
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. Another important revelation. Exchange controls are "a political measure". They have lasted already six or more years. Since controls are applied politically dissidents do not get dollars or get them late. Controls have been the source of enormous corruption. Chavez’s ministers of finance have been shown to be a bunch of crooks, racketeers and extorsionists and controls have served their purposes well. Capital flight manages to keep at some $40 billion per year, in spite of the controls, due to corruption and a fluorishing black market.
M: Another topic: it is hard not to notice the difference between the color of the people on the two sides here. The opposition crowds are noticeably lighter and more European looking than those who support the government. Do you think there is a racial dimension to this struggle?
H: Yes, there is racism here -it used to be more hidden and now it is more open. But it is not the main factor. And this is part of the picture in other countries, too -look who supported Lula, or Evo Morales [in Bolivia].
Comment by Gustavo Coronel. Crowds against Chavez include the whiter and the darker, the rich and the poor. Yes, there is more of the middle class in these protests since the middle class has been the main victim of Chave’z hatred.
Racism is at the very heart of ‘chavismo”. He has sown hate and racial resentment for ten long years. He tells the poor that the rich, white, oligarchs have robbed them and that this is the time for revenge. In this preaching he has been helped in the past by U.S. “experts” in racism such as Jesse Jackson and Danny Glover (who received $20 million from Chavez).


********************
Final comment. This was only Part I of the interview. I have not seen Part II but I can already guess what it looks like.

25 comentarios:

Anónimo dijo...

Mester Colonel has hit the nail rite on the head. A proper deomocraty has the educated and business peeple running the institutiones, not the rif raf from the gutters. Iam not so minded about Chevaz being the dictatar, the problem is his background is not suited to being in control of complicated things. I am very educated and now i have business, 20 staff and a maid and gardner to help my wife. i would not put the gardner in charge of the business as he is not qualified, nor the maid. they are loyal to me, but not educated and they dont expect me to make them the boss. it is the ways of the world, some are born to be leed and be productive and yes rich, some are not to be. It is time that this so called president got out of the way so an educated person, not a monkey with ugly face and big lips, is in charge. if he wont go then he should be pushed and a military man appointed until order is restored. mr colonel, i would recommend an officer like you or a colleague. sorry my english is poor, it is not my ferst langwage

sincerest wishes, Dalinc Krypskoia

Gustavo Coronel dijo...

Thank you Mr. Krispkoia, obviously a member of the cabinet of Zimbabwe.
Or, perhap, closer to home, a member of VIO or Mr. Weisbrot's team?
Nice try,perhaps at $1 per word?

Anónimo dijo...

Que pais tan deprimido y en banca rota es Venezuela donde la economia y el progreso estan por el subsuelo:eso lo dice coronel,pero alli les va una perlita:en el asueto de carnaval solo se movilizaron 14 millones de personas de los 27 millones que poblamos este hermoso y pujante pais,que castrocomunista tan atroz verdad coronel ,continua con tus pataleos esteriles que lo unico que ganas es que la ulcera se te active mas


NO VOLVERAN PITIYANQUITOS...SI...SI..SI

Anónimo dijo...

viagra pharmacy viagra manufacturer viagra for sale without a prescription generic soft tab viagra buy viagra soft online viagra soft tabs cheap generic viagra pharmacy viagra cheapest viagra in uk viagra free trial alternative to viagra uk alternative viagra viagra larger forever viagra effects on women

Anónimo dijo...

Your blog keeps getting better and better! Your older articles are not as good as newer ones you have a lot more creativity and originality now keep it up!

Anónimo dijo...

I just discovered the website who writes about
many
home business ideas

If you want to know more here it is
home based business opportunity

Anónimo dijo...

[url=http://seghan.ru/go.php?sid=2][img]http://banners.servized.com/current/gif/tam_720x90_1.gif[/img][/url]

[url=http://old-drugstore.net/]What is/are Zovirax Tablets?[/url]
What are acyclovir tablets or capsules?
ACYCLOVIR (Zovirax®) treats assured types of viral infections, specifically herpes infections. Acyclovir
pleasure not panacea herpes infections; it will help the sores mend faster and help to mitigate the pang or discomfort.
Now acyclovir is postulated to improve bar the infection from coming back. Acyclovir also treats shingles
and chickenpox infections. Generic acyclovir tablets and capsules are available.

What should I ascertain my fitness care provider in the vanguard I crook this medicine?
They need to differentiate if you be suffering with any of these conditions:

•dehydration
•neurological blight
•kidney disorder
•seizures (convulsions)
•an bizarre or allergic retaliation to acyclovir, ganciclovir, valacyclovir, valganciclovir, other medicines, foods, dyes, or preservatives
•significant or vexing to get in a family way
•breast-feeding



[url=http://best-drugstore.aoaoaxxx.ru/][img]http://i079.radikal.ru/0910/b9/3f666eb40896.jpg[/img][/url]
























[url= ]Zovirax online doctorspurchase Zovirax cod cash delivery [/url]
buy generic Zovirax no prescriptionBuy Zovirax overnight shipping
[url= ]Zovirax online overnightorder Zovirax online cod [/url]
Zovirax overnight fed exZovirax cheap cod
[url= ]Zovirax no prescription cash on deliverybuy Zovirax [/url]
cheap Zovirax prescriptionsZovirax with next day delivery without prescription with free shipping
[url= ]no perscription Zovirax next daybuy Zovirax online without a prescription and no membership [/url]
cheap Zovirax over nightZovirax shipped overnight without a prescription
[url= ]Zovirax with no prescriptionZovirax rx [/url]
cheap Zovirax next day deliverybuy Zovirax without a prescription overnight shipping
[url= ]Zovirax and overnightZovirax over night [/url]
buy Zovirax online next day deliveryZovirax ups
[url= ]Zovirax by codZovirax overnight US delivery [/url]
Zovirax fedex without prescriptionZovirax doctor
[url= ]Zovirax free saturday deliverycheap Zovirax for sale online no prescription required [/url]
Zovirax non perscriptionZovirax without a rx
[url= ]order Zovirax next daycod Zovirax overnight saturday no prescription [/url]
Zovirax overnight delivery saturdayZovirax shipped COD on saturday delivery
[url= ]Zovirax without a presciptionhow to get a doctor to prescript Zovirax [/url]
order Zovirax without a prescriptionZovirax xr buy online cheap

Anónimo dijo...

Nice post and this enter helped me alot in my college assignement. Say thank you you seeking your information.

Anónimo dijo...

Artistically done is richer reconsider than extravagantly said.

Anónimo dijo...

Artistically done is richer reconsider than comfortably said.

Anónimo dijo...

Lovingly done is richer reconsider than comfortably said.

Anónimo dijo...

Artistically done is richer reconsider than well said.

Anónimo dijo...

Lovingly done is sick than spectacularly said.

Anónimo dijo...

A human beings who dares to decay bromide hour of age has not discovered the value of life.

[url=http://www.livestockguardianangels.com/apps/profile/profilePage?id=54280822]Linsey[/url]


Jenna

Anónimo dijo...

We should be painstaking and particular in all the information we give. We should be extraordinarily painstaking in giving opinion that we would not dream up of following ourselves. Most of all, we ought to refrain from giving recommendation which we don't imitate when it damages those who take us at our word.

heat gun

[url=http://heat-gun-76.webs.com/apps/blog/]heat gun[/url]

Anónimo dijo...

We should be chary and fussy in all the advice we give. We should be especially prudent in giving information that we would not think of following ourselves. Most of all, we ought to refrain from giving counsel which we don't imitate when it damages those who depreciate us at our word.

mulcher

[url=http://mulcher-12.webs.com/apps/blog/]mulcher[/url]

Anónimo dijo...

A human beings begins icy his perceptiveness teeth the earliest often he bites out more than he can chew.

Anónimo dijo...

A human beings begins cutting his insight teeth the earliest without surcease he bites off more than he can chew.

Anónimo dijo...

To be a noble charitable being is to from a amiable of openness to the far-out, an skill to trusteeship aleatory things beyond your own restrain, that can front you to be shattered in very outermost circumstances as which you were not to blame. That says something remarkably weighty about the fettle of the honest life: that it is based on a conviction in the up in the air and on a willingness to be exposed; it's based on being more like a weed than like a sparkler, something kind of fragile, but whose acutely precise attractiveness is inseparable from that fragility.

Anónimo dijo...

Vex ferments the humors, casts them into their right channels, throws off redundancies, and helps cosmos in those hush-hush distributions, without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul fake with cheerfulness.

Anónimo dijo...

In harry's existence, at some pass‚, our inner pep goes out. It is then blow up into flame at hand an be faced with with another magnanimous being. We should all be indebted for those people who rekindle the inner inspiration

Anónimo dijo...

In harry's sustenance, at some pass‚, our inner pep goes out. It is then blow up into passion by an encounter with another hominoid being. We should all be glad for the duration of those people who rekindle the inner spirit

Anónimo dijo...

[url=http://collagen-q.ca]collagen cream[/url]


A [url=http://www.treegrid.com/scroll-table.html]scroll table[/url] tabletable row runs horizontally in a line across a table tabletable and is normally made up of several boxes with information [url=http://www.treegrid.com/rows-table.html]rows table[/url]. When you draw a table tabletable on a piece of paper, you are creating columns and rows rowsrows. Each horizontal line of boxes is a different table tabletable row. Often, the row at the top of the [url=http://www.treegrid.com/web-grid.html]web grid[/url] is used to create headers, which tell the reader what information can be found in the boxes below it, also known as the column. For example, the first three boxes in the first row of a table tabletable in a teacher’s attendance book might read "Student's Name," "Present," and "Absent."


Table rows are commonly used in HTML to create tables and to format a web page. The HTML tag for a [url=http://www.treegrid.com/grid-data.html]grid data[/url] is . Within each row, the tag must be added for each new box the user wants to create in that row. A new table row must be created to move down to the next line [url=http://www.treegrid.com/sort-table.html]sorting table[/url] and start a set of boxes below the first. This example shows a table with three table rows and three table columns.

Anónimo dijo...

PcsOqr [url=http://ukbootshopon.com/]ugg boots clearance[/url] YkuAmk http://ukbootshopon.com/

Anónimo dijo...

http://site.ru - [url=http://site.ru]site[/url] site
site